spn 4.20 "The Rapture"

[the_milky_way]

I should stop reading reviews I guess... *sighs*

Uhm yeah....

Let me just says this before I start with the incoherent notes and some rambling.
I am still not a fan of Castiel. I don't like that he seems to be more and more focus of the show and I don't like that they actually put him on the DVD Cover instead of the Impala.
This doesn't mean that I won't watch my show when he is in it.
but sometimes I think it's a little too much.
Yeah go ahead and hit me. I know I am almost alone with this.

Also, I see why people are disappointed in Sam. But I really, really don't get the fierce hate. What happened with 'we have trust in Kripke and he knows what he is doing'? Doesn't that apply to Sam anymore? Just because Castiel is there now and Sam is the part of the show that changed too much? I still love Sam and it hurts to see him like this. He is addicted and probably not really in his mind anymore. Of course he has changed.
I just think it's a little stupid to take it for real and actually tell Jared to fuck off the show because Sam sucks. Uhm guys? It's a show and a character and there are writers writing it.. it's not Jared for fuck's sake.

Notes then (also there be things about the preview for the next two eps).

Oh Sammy.

You know if you start an ep like this it would be cool if it was believable. Dean fishing? Yeah right.

"More private than inside my head?"

So both boys call him Cas now? *sighs*

Jimmy? Seriously?

Starved vessel. I love Sam's face there. Okay Dean's as well.

What did they do with Sam's hair?

Angel battle royale? Oh Sam.

Chained to a comment. Okay, nice description.

This family looks boring. Sorry, but not even Misha can change that.

Jimmy watching angels on TV and then he can see the signal but not hear it. It's like Dean in the first ep of the season.

Is it me or have Jared and Jensen slipped into their accents here? It's kinda cute though.

Sam floipping his hair? It always looks strange.

I like how Dean rolls his eyes every time Jimmy says something.

Dude, Sam looks HUGE there. Did he grow some more?

Oh Sammy no. This is not good. So not good.
He really is a junky.
on a side note, Jared is doing a good job there.

And Jimmy follows him. Nosy guy.. Okay he flees and Sam isn't watching because h is addicted. God, that's sad. Dean will be pissed.

Getting a coke? Oh all the lies. But hey Dean still has his blue toothbrush.

Why am I bored with this?

Jimmy remembering is fine and all but yeah...

Anna.

Oh Dean...

Ginormo.

"Sam, you seem different."
Anna knows. Oh Sammy.

Castiel got dragged back to heaven. Oh boy. Not good either.

In Jimmy's blood? It's all about the blood now. Interesting.

So Jimmy can hear the angels. Okay.

"I am not your father."
*laughs* Nice way to steal a line.. :D

Jimmy's wife kind of reminds me of Alona there.

Ruby has abaSam abandoned Sam? God, Sammy. He is so addicted now. And I thinkt hat's exactly how she needs him whatever her plan is, she needs Sam dependent and halfway out of his mind because of his need and addiction.

Hey, I know this guy from "DeadZone". He always plays bad guys. It sucks when casting spoils most of the fun. Bloody typecasting.

See, I knew. Possessed!guy.

Hi Dean, Hi Sam.
It's not working, he is too weak.

"Can't get it up, can you Sam?"
It's really just the blood. Sam himself is not evil or something.

Sam is fierce and really, really honest there.

Sam hi wiring the car? Yes, that's kinda hot especially with his nonchalance doing it.

Oh.. OH-.. okay I didn't see that coming. She is a demon.

Dean is concerned. Dean is scared for Sam... not by him... not yet.

"I am scaring myself."
God, boys. Look at their faces...

Sam is slurring. Hmmm.. is it Sam or Jared there?

Castiel can't help him. It's kinda sad.

Wondergirl powers. Yeah.

She shot Jimmy. Oh.

Who is she? Castiel? Castiel is a little girl. Okay.

Sam!
No!
God.
He is drinking blood in front of Dean.
The look on Dean's face! Shit.

So it's not only Ruby's blood but any kind of Demon blood. Fuck. That's not good at all.

It's all about the blood.

Ah, so that's how he gets back into the vessel.

"I serve heaven. I don't serve man. And I certainly don't serve you."
I wonder what happened to Castiel that he thinks that now.

Boys not talking. Dean is not talking to Sam. *sniffles*
Dean doesn't want to hear it. It's too much for him. Especially now, with everything going on.

"I am done. I am just done."
That's so sad.

"What's going on?"
"The apocalypse idjit."

A trap. Sammy!
"What's the big demon problem?"
"You are. It's for your own good."

I don't like that. Not at all.
And I get why they are doing it but it's not really all that loving.

And the Soon thing?
Yeah, God.. I don't know what to think.

"You walk out that door you don't ever come back." Right because saying the same thing to Sam when he went to college worked so well for you. Man, I don't know...
It will be epic but that doesn't mean I'll like it.
It will be one hell of a cliffhanger.

Oh and I kind of don't like Dean probably being made into a vessel (looked like it in the preview).
Meeep.

I just want my boys to not fight each other. or well if they do to work together in the end.
But I think Kripke won't do us the favour.. or well me. I don't know but I think season 5 won't be all that happy.
I think he'll keep the boys apart only to let them die together or something. Meeep.

I have to admit that Misha did a good job here. Misha not as Castiel was good, but I am was still bored with half the episode.
The scenes with and between the brothers broke my heart though.

Dean is so desperate and so tired of it all. He just wants his brother back and safe but he doesn't know how to do that anymore.
He hasn't given up, not entirely yet but he is close to the edge and maybe losing Sam hovering so close makes it all so much more worse. Dean really doesn't know what to do anymore.

Sam? Sam is an addict. Sam needs help but I guess he is already too far gone and he really believes that he is doing the right thing. he is trying to safe Dean and kill Lilith. just that the way he has chosen isn't all that good for achieving his goal.
He might actually have the power to kill her but it makes him dependent on other demons and I doubt he will be able to come down from it when Lilith is dead. He will still be an addict.

I am don't know if what Bobby and Dean are doing is helping (an judging from the preview it isn't) but well at least it shows that Sam is just human. He is not evil and I don't get why people actually think he is and can't see what's happening.
Of course you can be pissed at him but well people always find excuses to follow their addiction and Sam isn't any different here. He is human after all. Of course I want to shout at him to stoping doing that to himself and to Dean, but I know he can't help it anymore than any other addict can.
And I don't think Dean is all that much better, Dean has other resources to make himself stronger (and if he goes and makes himself a vessel).

I feel like rambling but that has more to do with fandom than with the show, so I'll stop here.

I think this ep was a good set up for the last two episodes.. but unfortunately nothing more.
It could have been more... but they did nicely focus on Sam's way of doing things and Dean's way of trying to deal with it. Both ways kind of failed. I like the brother-brother moments a lot even if there was not much of Dean. And I liked the sub-plot about the angels, too (for the first time ever).
But I could have gone without some of the Castiel/Jimmy stuff.... I was bored.

Comments

[ahania.livejournal.com]

lol. I think we're seeing the exact opposite reactions, I see lots of people saying there's too much Cas, and lots of 'poor Sam, it's not his fault!' I can't believe people are saying Sam should get off the show, seriously? o.0 I love Dean and Cas but SPN wouldn't be SPN without Sammy.

And man, the previews..... *gulps* I just hope they don't break things so bad it can't be fixed. Drama is good but totally broken beyond all recognition? Not so good. *hugs*

[the_milky_way]

Yeah, I see a lot of Sam!hate and Castiel!praise.
I don't Castiel but sometimes it's just a little too much for me and my little 'brotherly love heart'.
I don't even know what to say to people who want Sam off the show. I don't even know if I should take them seriously or not.
Sammy is a huge part of it all.

Yeah, I know what you mean. Too much of the broken and it wouldn't really be the show anymore. It's always been a lot of dynamic between people and I just hope Sam's and Dean's won't be lost along the way. It would be sad to go out with the show like this.

[kros-21.livejournal.com]

mmm honestly it was interesting for me to have a sight on Jim's life before... and I felt really sorry for him. I think the whole thing makes you understand like when you're chosen there is no turning back and you have to sacrifice everything you have to serve God.

I'll never understand the hate for Sam either, you know that! there were moments in this ep I wanted to slap him because of what he is "doing" to Dean. But he can't choice anymore... why people don't get it? He is like sick and addicted and he can't really make decisions anymore, at least not the decisions we would want him to make. He still think it's the only way he can act. The promo for next eps showed it: he wants to kill Lillith. Period.

Anyway the end was so painful I cried my heart out. But I guess it was only predictable we would get to this point, right?
*sighs*

[the_milky_way]

Oh don't get me wrong I think ti was nice to see the consequences of choice. For Jimmy as well as for Dean and Sam. Just some of the scenes were a bit too much for.. like I was bored.

This was all about choice here and yes Sam is way beyond being able to really choose and he doesn't even realise it anymore. I kind of get where they are going with both Sam and Dean and I don't know if I like it.
Yes, we were headed towards that for a while now and I just hope that there will be SanandDean left afterwards.

It is really painful to watch it all though.
*hugs*

[peaches.livejournal.com]

wait, what? people hate on Sammy? Fiercly? Where are those bitches and how soon can i kick their asses?

and i agree with your fear that they are going to put cas on the DVD box instead of the impala (maybe even instead of Sam...) I mean, i approved of him in this EP, but i still don't see how he could be important for season 5 except for the fact that fangirls find him hot...

[the_milky_way]

Just check *the* comm. I know I should stay away from it. *sighs*
I just.. I couldn't go without Sammy being there.. and hating him? No never. At least not for things like being addicted and wanting to safe his brother and the world.

Well Cas is on the season 4 box instead of the impala and I don't like it. I mean I can live with a Castiel like he was in the end of this episode but still....
And yes well.. fangirls.. *lol*

[matalinolukaret.livejournal.com]

Shoooooow. *wibbles*

When Dean said he was getting tired? I got worried. When Dean and Bobby stuck Sam in the basement? EXTRA WORRIED.

Booooys. Stick together you stupid- *sigh* Kripke you evil bastard.

[the_milky_way]

I know *sighs*
I am worried as well.... I don't know. I think Dean really is tired but I don't think he'll ever give up fighting for Sammy... or I hope so.

Kriopke is evil. *nods*

[spicy-87.livejournal.com]

I just think it's a little stupid to take it for real and actually tell Jared to fuck off the show because Sam sucks. Uhm guys?

Wtf?

[the_milky_way]

I know.. *sighs*

[xxtornxxapartxx.livejournal.com]

Even though I liked Jimmy, this episode was rather pointless, we didn't even find out what Castiel wanted to tell Dean. The only thing we achieved really was that Dean finally knows about Sam's addiction.

The next couple of episodes are gonna kill me though.

[the_milky_way]

Yes, pointless for the major part. I get that we are supposed to see the consequences when you get into it with the Supernatural but still.
I think this ep was good in showing where the brothers stand.

Yes, me, too.
Either it will be epic and break my heart or not and will still break my heart.

[blinded-i-am.livejournal.com]

I agree that Castiel is getting too big of a part, but Jimmy was rather adorable *g* I don't know, I love Misha but I hate Castiel and Jimmy is ok but I still feel like it's taking away from the show, even when he does something I like. It was ok this once but please don't do another Misha ep *g* The front of S4 is just WTF, it looks like Pet Sematery which makes me LOL but good point about Castiel replacing the Impala - NOT ON!

I hate how people say Ruby/Kripke is "ruining" Sam and they hate him now and stuff. WTF, I love him as much as I always have. Characters do occasionally change *g* But I do agree that it's so not Jared's fault. I also hate when people say he's a bad actor because really, it's not his fault that they only write like one possibly two emotions for him to convey most of this season -_-;

Oh Ginormo XD

I am not your father was the best thing ever. I was just not expecting it at all lol

I have a feeling Castiel is going to start pissing me off even more. The only times I ever like him is when he does what Dean wants instead of what he's supposed to do, and it seems like that is over now -_-;

The preview looks interesting and infuriating all at the same time lol Interesting because I'm so glad Sam is finally getting his role back and it looks like he's going to be getting some really good scenes but the whole Dean serving heaven/swearing allegiance/possible vessel thing will piss me off so much -_-; If Dean turns into heaven's little soldier then I want Sam to leave him, good riddance. Even though it saddens me to split them up but they are not working out right now

I don't get all the Sam hate at all, I really don't. I mean I love evil Sam but even if you don't, don't they at least feel sorry for him or something? Geez ...

[the_milky_way]

Jimmy was okay but I could have gone without some of the scenes. I got it the first time that he is sacrificing a lot. And yes, I mean we are very close to the season finale and they kinda waste time with him... A yeah, well seeing as he will be there for a lot I doubt we get our wish for not another Misha ep.
Yes, I liked the DVD covers until now... Not cool. I want the Impala back. So not cool.

Yeah, I don't get it either, It's one thing not to like Ruby but to say she is responsible for the Sam!hate is kinda idiotic. It's still a scripted show and they do have writers who write the stories after all.
I love Sammy and I am sad that he has chosen a way that drags him down but he still thinks he is doing it all for Dean and saving people.

*nods* Yeah, I guess Castiel will be one of the things I won't really like about the season finale.. as well as the things they might do to or with Dean. I am not really sure what to think.
I don't want to see the brothers without each other... I just I love them both and they are so stuck in this situation... It's sad.

Me neither. I just don't get it and I am a brothers!girl... *shrugs* I feel sorry for both of them.

[fire-at-wi11.livejournal.com]

And I don't really think Ruby is a bad person either. I mean she's obviously not your typical goodie but I think that she really does like Sam/is trying to help him. It's not their fault that the only way they could think of to do that was to pump Sam up on demon blood.

I guess I kind of see where they're going with Dean coming back to being the good little soldier but the angels just piss me off in general and I don't want Dean working for them at all, I want to LOSE and lose badly, even though I know that won't happen *pouts*

[the_milky_way]

I actually think that Ruby has her own agenda and that she is using Sam. She is a demon after all and whether she likes him or not might not play such a big role when it comes to her own goals. Or so I think.. :)
But then I have always thought she was playing Sam.. and in addition Dean.

Yes, that. The angels are mostly getting on my nerves. *shrugs*
*pouts with you*

[fire-at-wi11.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I mean it wouldn't surprise me at all if she tries to fuck him over in the end, but I like her so it doesn't matter for now lol

[force-oblique.livejournal.com]

Baby!!
Dont think like that!
No one is going to hate you if you dont like Castiel!
I mean come on!
I love Castiel but i do NOT put him above Sam!
I love Sam and like my icon says I have faith in him!
I dont know how people suddenly gave up on him!

Under no circumstances did we see him be evil or bad!
He has the power and sure he used it a lot but have we seen him do something EVIL?
NO!!
He did some wrong things but never EVIL!
So I dont understand the wank either!

[the_milky_way]

LOL, I know you would never hate or judge me but I am not sure sure about half of the rest of the fandom these days. It's sometimes like if you aren't for them you are against them. And really, I have never cared much for Castiel and I don't really get all the hype about him but then I might be stuck on Sam and Dean here... LOL

I don't know either why people gave up on Sam. It's just sad in a way.
But that's just me.

He isn't evil, he is an addict and he is maybe a little delusional because of that. But not evil. Everybody makes mistakes but that doesn't mean we are evil

[justthismorning.livejournal.com]

People are hating Sam? I mean, I'm disappointed in him because he is addicted and all. But by this point, he's as much a victim of his addiction as everyone else and I just want to see him get better. ♥
I like Castiel. I don't think he's as important as everyone else but I love him in a 'minor' character way. I do notice that he's taking up a lot of screen time and it's making me nervous because the show is supposed to be about two brothers, not good-brother/bad-brother + angel. *shrug*

[the_milky_way]

Yes, there are people that hate Sam. I don't get it. I mean of course you can be disappointed by someone's actions but seeing as he is an addicted I think it's a little too harsh to hate him for it.

Yes, that's my problem. I feel like Castiel is actually taking away from the brothers and the things/stories they can/could have told about them without him being there. I hope it won't be like that in the end, even it seems like that's where we are heading.
I don't know but I don't really like it.